Episode 243: What are you doing for Thanksgiving?

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Rebecca:
Welcome to Parenting Bytes, this is Rebecca Levey, I’m here today with Amy Oztan of Amy Ever After.

Amy:
Hello.

Rebecca:
Hello! And Andrea Smith, our Technology Guru Extraordinaire.

Andrea:
Hello.

Rebecca:
Hello. And today on the show, I feel like it’s finally getting cold, like we can finally have a discussion. We’re going to talk about what we’re doing for our sad, reduced Thanksgiving, our pandemic Thanksgivings.

Amy:
Should we name this this episode’s sad Thanksgiving, I really feel like that’s what it’s going to be like, although I guess we’ll get into it later, but not for enough people like a lot of people are just going ahead.

Rebecca:
I guess I don’t know anyone who just going ahead, but maybe that’s just because people aren’t publicly admitting that they’re going ahead,

Andrea:
Back

Rebecca:
Trying to figure that out. But I don’t know your lot here

Andrea:
To.

Rebecca:
In New York. You can have 10, which I don’t know how they’re going to police that in people’s homes. Like, I felt like Cuomo picked that because that’s probably how many members of his family there are that he wants to have for Thanksgiving.

Amy:
Ok.

Andrea:
But, you know, they are saying that even though I mean that you really shouldn’t have any member of your family who doesn’t live in your household,

Amy:
Right,

Rebecca:
Right.

Amy:
Like,

Andrea:
You

Amy:
I

Andrea:
Know,

Amy:
Don’t

Andrea:
So.

Amy:
Understand the number at all.

Rebecca:
The number makes no sense,

Andrea:
Well, no,

Rebecca:
It’s.

Andrea:
I think the numbers on indoor gatherings, right of any kind, not just Thanksgiving,

Amy:
Right,

Andrea:
So.

Amy:
For Thanksgiving, like I could I could I? Well, I don’t know, are we, like, past the intro? We like talking about it now

Rebecca:
Sure,

Amy:
Because I got

Rebecca:
Let’s

Amy:
A lot

Rebecca:
Just

Amy:
Of

Rebecca:
Talk

Amy:
Thoughts.

Rebecca:
About it.

Amy:
I mean, look, I had to tell my son last week that we won’t be seeing him for Thanksgiving or Christmas, which was painful. I mean, we usually have a huge Thanksgiving where we host both of my sisters and their families. And my mom, my dad even came last year from Kansas. Like everybody comes in from all over the country. And it’s my favorite holiday of the year. And we had to cancel it because it’s the responsible thing to do. We’re like in the home stretch right now for people to just even people who have been good up to this point. I’m seeing throw up their hands and say, well, I can’t miss Thanksgiving with my, you know, my parents, my grandparents, whatever. Yes, you can. You really, really can. And you should. And it’s just pissing me off.

Rebecca:
Well, I think the hard part is maybe it’s the people who are most vulnerable, who need to put their foot, you know, down, because if it’s about being with grandparents and the grandparents are really the most likely to get really sick, it’s hard. But to kind of like the grandparents going to have to say, like, we love you, but like, we’ll see you on Zoom. And I

Amy:
Right.

Rebecca:
Think that’s part of what’s maybe so hard or people feel like I’ll test first. In all, the testing means is at the point you had the test, you were negative, but

Amy:
Yeah.

Rebecca:
You could be positive the next day. You could get it while you’re sitting there in the doctor’s office,

Amy:
Well,

Rebecca:
Like, I mean,

Amy:
We tried

Rebecca:
You know.

Amy:
We actually tried to work out the logistics of seeing, you know, my my son is staying with my mom right now in Buffalo with his grandmother. And we tried to work out the logistics of bringing both of them. You know, I can drive them. There’s no, like, public transportation involved. They don’t need to fly or take a train. But we tried to work out the testing logistics. You know, my my son works in a grocery store. My mom works in a hospital for Stamped quarantine, I guess, and then test and then not work until they got the test results and then we get to see them. It would have been at least a week to 10 days of them not working so that we could see them for Thanksgiving. And they can’t do that.

Andrea:
Well, and that’s the same for a lot, I mean, you know, for forever I did Thanksgiving, I had like 18 to 20 people, big family Thanksgivings. And for the past few years, I’ve been going to my stepdaughter down in Virginia and she lives very close to my son and she’s been doing Thanksgiving. And this year I’m just not comfortable, you know, and she said it’ll just be limited to family. No friends are outside guests. But you know what? Even that first of all, I don’t want to drive for five hours. Thank you. And second of all, I don’t want to take a train. And third of all, I mean, she’s a teacher, OK?

Amy:
Knomo.

Andrea:
So she’s in

Rebecca:
Wowwee.

Andrea:
School and she’s in school with kids where she is. They’ve got blended learning. And I thought, this is not good. And I politely, lovingly said, this year I’m not coming. That’s it. Well, Zoom will do something, but let’s just take the year off. And then my son and his girlfriend thought about coming up, and they have just after eight months, started working again in a restaurant. And so just like you said, Amy, they would have to test. They would have to not work. They would have to come up and then they’d have to quarantine for two weeks when they go back. So, you know, how do you not work for three weeks to your point? So I just am trying to be the grown up. And I’m saying, you know what, that’s it. No Thanksgiving this year not happening. We’re all just going to do our thing because I want to be able to have Thanksgiving down the road. I

Amy:
Right.

Andrea:
Don’t want to be like we have to have Thanksgiving this year.

Amy:
I think we should make Thanksgiving in July of this year and just make it up and I will make a turkey in the 90 degree heat and all of the fixings and, you know, try to gather everybody.

Rebecca:
Maybe July 4th will be like July 4th, Independence, Turkey,

Amy:
Giving

Rebecca:
Christmas Day,

Amy:
I

Rebecca:
We’re going to hope for July 4th, right?

Amy:
I think that’s an excellent idea.

Rebecca:
Yeah, I mean, it’s sad we’ve had this same discussion in our house, too, because my sister is a teacher as well and she’s teaching in person at her school and she teaches older kids like she teaches middle and high school, who are actually kids who get sick still and had a sixth grader who tested positive last week. And, you know, they had to close that classroom and whatever. And my niece is going to school three days a week where they have blended learning. So same thing. It’s like even if my sister were to get a test on Tuesday and found out, you know, it was negative by Thursday, by Thanksgiving, it doesn’t really mean anything because we still have to be inside. Like if you live in California and Florida and places where you can have an outdoor Thanksgiving, like. Sure,

Amy:
Yeah,

Andrea:
Totally different.

Amy:
I’ve had picnics

Andrea:
Yes.

Amy:
With friends, you know, we

Rebecca:
Yeah.

Amy:
Did our cookbook club in the park twice when the weather was nice and, you know,

Andrea:
We

Amy:
We just spread out.

Andrea:
We do a weekly dinner here, we do a weekly driveway dining dinner, we order from a different restaurant every week, we pick a theme. Everyone orders from the same restaurant. We spread out. We’re six feet apart. We have masks on unless we’re eating and we’ve been doing that. And honestly, I would do that for Thanksgiving if it wasn’t getting cold. If I lived in a part of the country that we could do it outdoors, I would totally do it. But we don’t.

Amy:
Not to mention, even as we’re talking about testing logistics, there was actually a cruise recently, somebody decided that

Rebecca:
I

Amy:
It was time

Rebecca:
Can’t

Amy:
To

Rebecca:
Believe somebody went on a crash

Amy:
Yeah,

Rebecca:
Site

Amy:
They

Rebecca:
Just.

Amy:
Just a company decided it was time to try one. The smaller cruise, I think it was about 60 passengers and probably about the same number of crew. And, you know, they had people quarantined. They had people tests. They tested during the cruise. Their testing procedures could not have been better. But testing is not foolproof. And sure enough, you know, a week or something into the cruise, somebody tested positive. And so not everybody is stuck in their cabins for the entire rest of the cruise. So testing, you know, even if you could work that out, it’s it’s not foolproof. It’s

Rebecca:
Right,

Amy:
Not worth

Rebecca:
It’s a moment

Amy:
It.

Rebecca:
In time,

Amy:
It’s

Rebecca:
That’s

Amy:
Just

Rebecca:
What

Amy:
Not

Rebecca:
It

Amy:
Worth

Rebecca:
Is.

Amy:
It.

Rebecca:
Yeah, it’s just it sucks. So let’s talk about what you’re doing, since we all are having a very reduced Thanksgiving, the three of us, we will not be doing like outdoor Thanksgiving like that on a substantial scale. So I’ve been reading a bunch of stuff. I mean, Melissa Clarke did a piece in The New York Times a couple of weeks ago and sort of actually Thanksgiving for two. She went she went really tiny,

Amy:
So good.

Rebecca:
Which was really great. And I love that she because a lot of people I know are deciding to do a turkey breast because like a whole turkey seems crazy. But she did thighs, which I think you kind of have to go to a butcher for. It’s harder to find parts of turkeys at the regular grocery stores that aren’t breasts. But it’s a really great recipe and a really great little menu on how to make Thanksgiving. Still Thanksgiving, you know, just on a smaller scale. And maybe

Andrea:
I,

Rebecca:
The food’s better because it doesn’t have to be made in mass quantities.

Andrea:
I,

Rebecca:
Dries

Andrea:
I’ve

Rebecca:
Out

Andrea:
Been I’ve

Rebecca:
And.

Andrea:
Always done a turkey like I’ve always done a turkey breast in addition to a turkey, because everyone in my family was just white meat dress people. But so I’m perfectly fine doing a turkey breast and doing a smaller scale or you know what, leftovers. I love

Rebecca:
Right.

Andrea:
Leftovers.

Amy:
Well, my husband is not OK with just a turkey breast or thigh, he still wants a full turkey, which I’m OK with. As long as he understands that he will literally be the only one eating it. He’s going to be like Joey on that friend’s episode, like

Rebecca:
Right.

Amy:
It’s going to be his turkey and he’s got to put on the maternity pants and he’s going to get the meat sweats. But, you know, we always do like a lot of turkey potpie and stuff afterwards, so that’ll still happen. And for me, I love Thanksgiving leftovers so much that even though only three of us are going to be eating the dinner, I’m going to have to fight the urge to make massive amounts of food. I really am.

Rebecca:
Well, I guess, like Andrew said, you can definitely freeze it. I mean, that’s a my plan is also I’m probably making a whole turkey, mostly because my husband is the only one who likes white meat

Amy:
And.

Rebecca:
And my daughters like dark meat and he really doesn’t like dark meat. They would probably be fine with the white meat. But I was like, you know what, they’re actually some little turkeys this year. It’s so silly. But the I guess breeders realized, you know, way back in March that this might happen. So you can actually find yourself like an eight pound turkey, which for a turkey is tiny.

Amy:
Yeah, that would be perfect.

Rebecca:
So I am on the hunt for an eight pound turkey. I’m trying to reserve one from the guy at the farmer’s market. And then I feel like I’m just going to make what I always make. And we are we’re just going to be living on it for three or four days. I’m like the stuffing. I don’t want to I don’t even know how to have some of those recipes, you know, like, how do you have stuffing? I don’t know. It’s like too much of a pain in the butt. Like if it fits in the nine by 13 dish,

Amy:
Yeah.

Rebecca:
Say

Andrea:
It’s

Rebecca:
It

Andrea:
Going

Rebecca:
In the night

Andrea:
In,

Rebecca:
Right there.

Andrea:
It’s going in, and you’ll have leftovers.

Rebecca:
Yeah.

Andrea:
My problem is my sister makes the most amazing stuffing and her job every year. The stuffing. I mean, I always made the turkey and the potatoes and I made everything else, but she made the stuffing. And I’m really going to miss that this

Rebecca:
Well,

Andrea:
Year.

Rebecca:
Maybe you should pick it up from her, like

Andrea:
Well,

Rebecca:
Maybe that’s something families could do, is at least do like

Andrea:
It’s

Rebecca:
A

Andrea:
Swap

Rebecca:
Little

Andrea:
Swap

Rebecca:
Food

Andrea:
Food.

Rebecca:
Swap and then eat it together over Zoom.

Andrea:
Well, here’s here’s the thing she did. And so she lives in the city and she asked me if I would come in for Thanksgiving. And of course, I’m like, no, I’m not coming

Amy:
Right.

Andrea:
And eating in your house just because you’re my sister and I love you. Does it mean that you don’t have covid or that I can’t get covid? And it feels horrible to say, but if I’m going to go, do we eat dinner in someone’s house, I’ll go see my son. So, no, I’m not going to my sister. But then she said, well, there’s a lot of restaurants in the city that are going to do outdoor Thanksgiving with their heaters and stuff. And that I would consider doing

Rebecca:
That’s

Andrea:
That

Rebecca:
What my dad’s

Andrea:
Is a

Rebecca:
Doing.

Andrea:
That is a definite if she can find I’m sure it’s hugely expensive. If she can find a place that I could drive in and park and sit outside under a heater and it’s not snowing, I would do that for Thanksgiving. And then maybe I could swap food, like then I can say, and if you make stuffing, give me some stuffing and I’ll give you some turkey.

Rebecca:
I think it’s so you know, in New York, the holiday season is just it’s, I think like the best time in New York. And so that’s part of what’s sad, too. And I think for a lot of people, it’s not just the meal, it’s the traditions that go around that. And, you know, in New York, it’s it was already sad, the holiday windows, because like Laura Dern tailers out of business, all the stores that had there were so many stores that had amazing holiday windows when I was growing up. And now there’s like three left. But now I’m thinking I haven’t read if they’re doing them or not, but I kind of hope they aren’t because there are no tourists here. And I’m like, I never go anymore because it’s a nightmare. And I’m like, oh, I might be able to do like all these New York holiday things, like go see the tree and the windows and go ice skating at Rockefeller Center. Like all these things that that people who live here we don’t get to do because it’s just too insane.

Andrea:
You

Amy:
That’s

Andrea:
Know,

Amy:
True.

Andrea:
I was thinking, are they doing the windows, are they even doing up window decorations this year?

Rebecca:
I think they’ll do decor, I just don’t know if Saks, like I don’t know if they’re doing their fancy thematic windows that

Andrea:
Right,

Rebecca:
Move and

Andrea:
The

Rebecca:
Dance

Andrea:
Big holiday

Rebecca:
And.

Andrea:
Windows.

Rebecca:
Yeah, and I feel like sex might be the only ones left right. Because it used to be I’m going to age myself, but like Gimbel’s and Bonwit Teller and Lord and Taylor,

Andrea:
Laura

Rebecca:
Like

Andrea:
Dern

Rebecca:
Every

Andrea:
Taylor, yep,

Rebecca:
Everyone

Andrea:
Yep.

Rebecca:
Had those fabulous windows. And then slowly it was like fewer and fewer and fewer. But

Andrea:
No,

Rebecca:
I don’t know.

Andrea:
It’s American Girl.

Rebecca:
Yeah, really. I mean, Bergdorf does their windows. Those are always like funky, cool. Barney’s is gone. Their windows were always amazing. I mean, there’s really not a lot of people left. But I was wondering, like, are things going to be decorated like that in the city this year since we don’t really have tourists? And I kind of hope they are, because I, I will say that for those of you who don’t live in New York and I’m not telling you to go and travel during covid,

Andrea:
And.

Rebecca:
But New York has been kind of amazing since the summer. And I think part of that everything is moved outside. And part of that’s just New York, the way New York adjusts to anything. But there is something really nice about being able to enjoy your city without all the tourists, even though we need the tourists for the economy. So, you know, double edged sword.

Andrea:
So

Amy:
Yeah.

Andrea:
I wonder what people are doing who who don’t live in New York, who live in weather, where you can eat outdoors like California and Florida and, you know, maybe a little more of the states that, you know, maybe it’s in the 50s, you know, and you can

Rebecca:
Right.

Andrea:
Just bundle up. You know, I wonder if people are gathering and eating outdoors and having holidays, which, you know, honestly, I would do if I could. And I don’t know why people wouldn’t be doing that as opposed to eating indoors when we know that there’s such a huge risk from that.

Rebecca:
I think people will I think the problem is when your family comes to stay with you like, you know, the the big thing about Thanksgiving, right, is not that it’s just your family that lives near you. Like you just said, Andrea, like usually go down to Virginia. Like it’s that that’s the holiday where one travels to see family. And so that’s happening and people are staying in each other’s homes. I think that’s the bigger risk than just the meal. And

Amy:
Yeah.

Rebecca:
I know that’s what just one of my daughters was supposed to go. Who’s living in California right now is supposed to go to L.A. for the weekend just to see family, because it felt so weird that she was such a short flight away to see them and hadn’t seen them. And then my sister in law pulled the plug because she was going to be staying with them for two nights and it just felt too risky.

Amy:
Well, that’s the thing like last week when we were talking about when it when I said that I had done a bunch of research on fire pits, it was because I’m trying to figure out ways to host my cookbook club in my backyard in the winter. And eventually we decided that if we were going to try to do this, we still don’t know if we are. It would really have to be some kind of overhead heater. A fire pit isn’t going to do it. But that’s the thing. Like, I could probably get some kind of heater and host dinner. It’s not the dinner that’s the problem. It’s it’s that nobody lives closer than 400 miles away and most of them live, you know, all the way across the country. So, yeah, like, it’s it’s not just the meal. I think this is a great opportunity for some kind of friends giving. If you’re in an area with warm enough weather to eat outside, you know, people you wouldn’t normally spend the holiday with, people who don’t have to travel. I think this is this is a great time to reach out to a neighbor in California or Florida and say, hey, you know, what are you doing for for Thanksgiving? We usually don’t get to spend time with you then. So start start

Andrea:
And

Amy:
Something

Andrea:
Then

Amy:
New

Andrea:
You can

Amy:
This

Andrea:
Still

Amy:
Year

Andrea:
Cook, you can still cook your favorites, you can bring

Rebecca:
Right.

Andrea:
Them I mean,

Amy:
In

Andrea:
You know,

Amy:
Big

Andrea:
If

Amy:
Quantities.

Andrea:
It’s if it’s not that cold, you know, we may do a driveway dining like we’ve like we’ve been doing or move it into a garage and put heaters, you know, but I mean, I would love that. I love to be able to do that. It’ll be weather dependent here. But I know a lot of people who usually go see their grandchildren close by. So it’s not a matter of staying over

Amy:
I

Andrea:
Who just

Amy:
Would even

Andrea:
Are

Amy:
Be worried

Andrea:
Not

Amy:
About

Andrea:
Doing

Amy:
Inside.

Andrea:
It.

Rebecca:
Yeah, well, I wouldn’t do it if it was inside,

Amy:
I

Rebecca:
I

Andrea:
Yeah,

Amy:
Would

Rebecca:
Just.

Amy:
Just be worried about even inside a garage, though.

Rebecca:
Right,

Andrea:
Well.

Rebecca:
They say once you have walls on three sides, it’s

Amy:
Yeah.

Rebecca:
Kind of the same thing, right? That’s what they were saying about New York dining with

Amy:
Right,

Rebecca:
The tents

Amy:
Like the

Rebecca:
That all these restaurants have set up.

Amy:
Well, the outside dining that I’ve seen in my neighborhood that have the heater’s like they’ve they’ve literally walled off one booth, like

Rebecca:
Right.

Amy:
You get your own little individual pod.

Rebecca:
Right, which they’re saying you shouldn’t do unless you’re with only members of your household, because that’s a near us, too, we have a lot of restaurants that have done those little bubbles, you know, where it looks like you’re just in this clear bubble pod when they’re like, that’s not a good idea unless you’re with only your immediate household, but you

Amy:
Oh, yeah, like

Rebecca:
Because.

Amy:
This just for a date night with my husband that I would want

Rebecca:
Right,

Amy:
To do that.

Rebecca:
And like be first in the reservation, like my husband was like, what if the person who was in that pod before he was like sneezing and coughing, you know? I mean, it’s all just like in there. Oh, my God. It just sucks. You know, we just talk about how much it sucks.

Amy:
It was.

Rebecca:
It’s weird. And, you know, Thanksgiving is. Is like the great American holiday in so many ways, like I’m not going to get into the political things about it, but

Amy:
Well,

Rebecca:
It

Amy:
No,

Rebecca:
Is

Amy:
No,

Rebecca:
Kind

Amy:
You should,

Rebecca:
Of.

Amy:
Because there is a great tweet, there was something like like, wait, isn’t spreading disease to

Rebecca:
Right,

Amy:
Unsuspecting

Rebecca:
Exactly.

Amy:
People of the heart of Thanksgiving?

Rebecca:
The heart of Thanksgiving after they feed you and how is you and welcome you and

Amy:
Yeah.

Rebecca:
Ensure your survival? That is very true. Giving everyone disease blankets could be your big your big gift this year. But I think that it is one of those holidays that so many people, regardless of like faith or where the family came from, it’s like one of those weird holidays that everyone celebrates in America for the most part. So I think it’s even worse maybe than Christmas. I don’t know, like the.

Andrea:
I think so, because, I mean, at Christmas, you know, especially as your kids get older and they have relationships, you kind of like, OK, you know, so you’re going to alternate Christmas or Hanukkah or whatever. But honestly, my son is 30 and I have never not had him with me for Thanksgiving. I mean, he just knew, you know, if he was doing Christmas with his girlfriend, you know, Thanksgiving is mom’s holiday. And there was never a negotiation because he just grew up knowing. Nope, I go home for Thanksgiving every year, except for the one year that he had to work at five a.m. Black Friday when he was in college in Connecticut. And he came

Rebecca:
Oh.

Andrea:
Home and had Thanksgiving and left at 10:00 at night and drove back so he could work by Friday. So the one good thing coming out of this pandemic is that we’re not going to have Black Friday the way we used to, and people are going to be able to stay home and not have to be in a store at five a.m.

Rebecca:
Anna.

Andrea:
But honestly, Thanksgiving for 30 years, it took a pandemic for me not to be able to see my son on Thanksgiving.

Amy:
Wow, yeah,

Rebecca:
Yeah,

Amy:
This this

Rebecca:
This

Amy:
Will

Rebecca:
Year

Amy:
Be the

Rebecca:
Blows

Amy:
First for me.

Rebecca:
Like, oh, sorry, I thought we were going to try to help people through this and like,

Andrea:
Yeah, we’re

Rebecca:
Talk

Andrea:
Getting

Rebecca:
About

Andrea:
Sad.

Rebecca:
How

Amy:
Now it’s

Andrea:
Ok,

Amy:
Just a big

Andrea:
Let’s

Amy:
Pity

Rebecca:
Good

Andrea:
Talk

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It

Amy:
Party.

Rebecca:
Would

Andrea:
About

Rebecca:
Be

Andrea:
Fun things, let’s talk about fun,

Rebecca:
And.

Amy:
Well,

Andrea:
Fun

Amy:
Look,

Andrea:
Gifs.

Amy:
There’s something there’s a way to segue into something hopeful that ties in with what we’re talking about because we really are in the homestretch in the past, you know, week to 10 days, we’ve had some spectacular news about vaccinations. And so it’s not too late to change your Thanksgiving plans. This really is not the time to start getting lax because we are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. We are seeing hope for the spring. So that’s a happy note.

Rebecca:
Right, it is, and you know what else like which we sort of realized with Passover and I guess many Christians realized, I’m assuming with Easter we ended up having like a Seder with so much more family than we ever did because because of Zoom, like we we always kind of get filled in the next day. I’m like, how is your sister? How is your sister? And instead, we just had like multiple waves of Sader, like we had ours on Zoom with New York. And then like three hours later when L.A. people were having their Seder, we tuned in to that one. And they also had people from Michigan on like, so maybe your Thanksgiving could be even, you know, instead of having to choose which family you have Thanksgiving with or if that’s something that causes strife in your family, which for some families, that’s a big deal. Right. The like alternating or like just the horrible uncle. No one wants to sit next to, you know, the horrible whatever family who feel different. You know, this is a big political year, as always. But this one may be more maybe it’s kind of nice to not have to.

Amy:
You can meet them.

Rebecca:
You can mute them. You can shrink them. You could.

Andrea:
And the good news is Zoom just announced that they’re lifting their time limits and they’re going to be unlimited time for calls for Zoom for I think it’s midnight on Thanksgiving until seven a.m. the following the day after Thanksgiving.

Amy:
That’s

Andrea:
So

Amy:
So great.

Andrea:
You can have as many Zoom calls as you want for as long as you want.

Rebecca:
Yeah, and you know what, you could put on your TV, like, if you want a big and giant, you can do that. We put the computer on the dining table. That’s what we did. Prosector was kind of fun, but we had everyone there and it was I don’t know, it was kind of nice. We at the end of it, I remember thinking we all said to each other, like, why don’t we always do that? Like, why didn’t we always, like, check in virtually with everyone on those holidays instead of having the phone call the next day? You know, it’s not like we sat together for hours and hours all together. We just had a little like check in part. It was fun. And then when you feel like, OK, we’re good, you know, just kind of drop out. So maybe see it as a good thing that you can avoid the family you always wanted to avoid and you could include family that was always difficult. And for like older people in your family to who maybe travel became really difficult, maybe they were missing out in the past few years. Anyway, it’s a good time to maybe get someone over there to help them with the technology and loop them into. But there’s the positive and I’m all for member. We had Amy Jacobson, the party planner, sort of talking about how they were doing virtual parties way at the beginning.

Amy:
Yeah.

Rebecca:
The idea of like everyone getting the same thing in the mail and sort of doing it together. I think you could do that at Thanksgiving, too. Like whether you play virtual Pictionary together or everyone makes like in my family in Michigan, it would be like the same Tex Mex dip or this is very Midwestern or spinach dip that you put inside a round of pumpernickel.

Amy:
Oh, I love that dip.

Rebecca:
It’s so good, so like if everybody maybe agrees to make one thing in common, like that could be really fun and you all sort of like, all right, everyone’s taking out maybe everyone made one person’s recipe for stuffing or everyone, you know, whatever it is. Maybe that’s a fun way to to be together, too. So there’s my idea and I’m thinking about my menu because it’s coming up so quickly. And I haven’t really gotten my head around the fact that it’s a week away. So

Andrea:
It’s crazing.

Rebecca:
Since I didn’t even know it, today was.

Amy:
Oh,

Rebecca:
So

Amy:
My God, it’s a week away. I didn’t wow.

Rebecca:
It’s a week away. Exactly. So.

Amy:
Yeah, normally there’s like so much like I’m getting two houses ready for like 18 people and

Rebecca:
Right.

Amy:
Wow.

Rebecca:
So maybe that’s an upside

Amy:
Hmm.

Rebecca:
You can show.

Amy:
Yeah.

Rebecca:
All right, well, those are our thoughts on having a not so sad Thanksgiving and we will be right back with our Bytes of the Week.

Rebecca:
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Amy:
Well, the one who deigned to do it with me, kid.

Rebecca:
Ok? And it’s like an awesome experience. It’s just fun to have something to do together.

Amy:
Yeah, it was so much fun, and I think especially if there’s a kid in your life that you won’t get to see this holiday season, you know, this would be a great thing to send them. And you can even, like, do it with them over Zoom or something or like send it to to, you know, your niece in St. Thomas and your nephew in San Francisco and like have them do it together over Zoom. Like, I think this is this is a really great opportunity to share with people that you would normally see in person that you’re not going to see this year.

Rebecca:
I feel the same way, plus like you’re taking some pressure off of either a parent or grandparent or an aunt or anyone yourself

Amy:
Oh,

Rebecca:
To come up with a project during this time.

Amy:
It could be like like virtual babysitting, like you say, OK,

Rebecca:
Yes.

Amy:
We’re going to send this crate to you and I am going to get on Zoom for an hour with your kid and occupy them. Oh,

Rebecca:
Oh,

Amy:
That’s

Rebecca:
That’s

Amy:
Genius.

Rebecca:
A gift for everybody.

Amy:
Yeah.

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Rebecca:
So we are continuing our gift guide bytes. We are presenting gift ideas every week leading up to the holiday. And Amy, we’re going to start with you. What are your bytes.

Amy:
Yeah, so my first one is I do have one specific recommendation, but there’s so many out there, I will also give some others. It’s to get a second monitor for your computer.

Rebecca:
Oh, my God, yes.

Amy:
Yeah. You know, you and Andrea have definitely you heard a lot in the beginning of this about how difficult it was for me to work because my husband took over my office and we were sharing my computer. Eventually I was sent. Well, eventually we got him set up with this whole other set up in my office. But eventually I got a second small monitor for my laptop that somebody sent me to review a company. I don’t know how to pronounce it. It’s either Vissles or Vissles Vissles Élysées. And if I had just had that from day one, I would have just let him have my computer most of the time because, you know, sometimes have him doing like really, you know, resource heavy stuff like video editing and audio editing and stuff. Then I want my computer. But the rest of the time I realized that all I was missing was the big screen, not actually the processing power. And so having a second monitor for my laptop has kind of revolutionized my workflow during this weird everybody at home time because I can now be as productive at my dining room table as I would be in my office. And I was really amazed at just how easy it was. Like I set it up once and it’s it’s just plug and play. Like, I just plug it in and it’s, you know, there it is. My my screen extended onto another screen and this particular one is a touch screen. It is so thin that it fits alongside my laptop in my laptop bag with plenty of extra space.

Rebecca:
Wow, how big is it?

Amy:
Oh my God. It’s slightly bigger in area than my Lenovo yoga, but it’s thinner than my yoga. I mean, it’s I can’t it’s so convenient to bring with me places like I’ve brought it upstate a bunch of times, which also just makes working up there so much easier. It’s 209 dollars and they’re going to start shipping at the end of the month, at the end of November. So I’ll give a link to that. But then I’ll also give some recommendations for some others because, you know, this one is the only one that I’ve used. It’s fantastic. It’s I’m I’m not sure if I’ve found conflicting information on whether it works for iPhone. I think you just need to buy an adapter for it to use for it to work for iPhone. But it works for Macs. It works for Android. It comes with several different cords to give you a bunch of different options for hooking up older and newer computers. But I will give lots of options for a second screen. Just do it. I can’t believe what a difference it made working on my laptop.

Rebecca:
Oh, yeah, and I can’t recommend that enough for your children who are doing at home school. It is it changed the way my daughters were doing their work in. They’ve never had a second monitor. And when they went to college, I’m like, you’re getting a second monitor. All your classes are remote anyway. And they’re like, oh, my God. Like, just to have Zoom open on their laptop and be able to work on the monitor at the same time changed everything. Like it’s almost impossible to do online school with Zoom and not have a separate monitor.

Amy:
Yeah, I mean, I spent so much time flipping between screens when I’m just on my laptop

Rebecca:
Yeah.

Amy:
That it just waste so much time and just like it’s just hard to look at that way. So, yeah, do it.

Rebecca:
Yeah, well, I’m going to throw in a recommendation on top of your recommendation then, just because we’re a Mac family,

Andrea:
Is that a meta meta

Rebecca:
I

Andrea:
Recommendation?

Rebecca:
Know. Well, because we’re

Amy:
Recommendations

Rebecca:
A Mac family.

Amy:
Squared.

Rebecca:
So I know you said the one you recommended works on Mac, but Macs can be very tricky with external monitors in terms of monitors sizing everything correctly. I don’t

Amy:
Mayor.

Rebecca:
Know why, but so we bought after like a crazy amount of research. The Asus Pro Art Display is perfectly calibrated for MacBook, either MacBook Pro or MacBook Air, like also just total plug and play. So I highly recommend everyone in our family know this one. Monitor this Asus Pro Art Display and it like completely seamlessly renders everything for Mac and that’s very hard to find. And a non Apple Monitor and Apple Monitors are extraordinarily expensive.

Amy:
Cool

Rebecca:
So get

Amy:
Is

Rebecca:
The easiest

Amy:
A touch screen.

Rebecca:
One. It is not touch screen.

Amy:
Did I mention that this one is touch

Rebecca:
Yes,

Amy:
Screen,

Rebecca:
That is really cool.

Amy:
It’s

Andrea:
That’s very

Amy:
So

Andrea:
Cool.

Amy:
Handy because on my main computer, I’ve had it for a year and I still haven’t gotten used to the fact that it’s not touch screen and like,

Rebecca:
Right.

Amy:
I’ll just reach out and the. Oh, yeah, I’m just I’m putting fingerprints on it for no reason. So that’s very good too. Is having a if you get a second one, that’s touchscreen.

Rebecca:
Awesome. All right, what’s your second one?

Amy:
That’s that one, the second one has to do with food and baking and cooking, if you missed the first round of bread baking in the spring when everybody decided that they needed to bake bread and all stores ran out of flour and I started buying it in 50 pound packs, it is now time for you to get a Dutch oven. A lot of people who cook might have won anyway because they’re just really handy on top of the stove. And there are a lot of like stews and meats and stuff where you start them on the stove and then you put them in the oven. And a Dutch oven is great for that. But a Dutch oven is also amazing for baking bread because it basically mimics the atmosphere of one of those like professional steam injected ovens. It keeps all the steam in this little space and it just makes the best bread. And there is one particular recipe that was going around last year that I baked a bunch of times from the kitchen that said that it would work in pretty much any covered container. I actually tried it in a covered Pyrex container to test that out. It was OK made OK, Brett, but nothing like in a Dutch oven. So get a Dutch oven. You do not have to spend three or four hundred dollars on that brand name that I own nothing of. I’m not a snob about Dutch ovens. I’m sure they’re great, but they’re also great ones at different price points. Amazon BASIX makes one for like I think it’s forty or fifty dollars. I have two of the ones from Tramontina, which is one of my favorite brands. That’s a brand that I found out about from Kenji Lopez-Alt on The Food Lab. It’s really well-made, well-designed stuff without the price tag of of like a, you know, more famous names.

Rebecca:
The French ones.

Amy:
The French. Yes. So once I read about that, like probably a decade ago and ever since then, I’ve been buying there, you know, baking sheets and frying pans and they just make really good quality stuff. And same with the Dutch oven. I was not disappointed. It was I think I got it on sale for like sixty dollars. It normally sells for eighty dollars, still worth it at eighty dollars. And like I said, I have to because you know, sometimes you want to throw two things in the oven at once and you know, at that price point you can afford to get to.

Rebecca:
What size would you get for baking bread?

Amy:
You know, let me I don’t even know offhand, let me see what size this one is. This one is it’s a 5.5 court.

Rebecca:
Oh, that’s big.

Amy:
Yeah. Oh, is that like it’s the only one I’ve ever had. So I don’t even know, like, if that’s considered big. It’s the perfect size for a nice big for the for the recipes, for the rustic bread recipes that use a pound of flour. It is the absolute perfect size for that loaf.

Rebecca:
Cool.

Amy:
Yep,

Rebecca:
Good

Amy:
So

Rebecca:
To

Amy:
I’ll put

Rebecca:
Know.

Amy:
Up on a few links to, you know, cheaper ones and more expensive ones if you really want to spend that money, but I don’t think

Rebecca:
Right,

Amy:
You have

Rebecca:
Well,

Amy:
To.

Rebecca:
There are deals to now like Sur La Table is having a good deal, like Food52, sometimes you can find the expensive ones, too, for a lot less if you like, really want to have a color.

Amy:
Oh,

Rebecca:
Just

Amy:
These come

Rebecca:
Just

Amy:
In, I

Rebecca:
Saying.

Amy:
Mean, mine, mine are cobalt blue and they’re gorgeous, like,

Rebecca:
Ok.

Amy:
You don’t have to go expensive to get the pretty colors.

Rebecca:
All right, good, that’s good to know, too, because nobody wants, you know, SAT Gray,

Andrea:
Just bland.

Rebecca:
Not

Amy:
Right,

Rebecca:
For your Dutch oven.

Amy:
No, because, you know, if you want to put it on the table with your other stuff, you want it to look good.

Rebecca:
Right, I always there’s something about a beautiful spot like, I don’t know, it’s always great, so that’s good to know. Cool. All right. Thanks, Amy. Andrea, what do you have?

Andrea:
All right, good bye, good bye. All right, so I’ve got some little gadget accessory bites, too. I was I was going for the affordable accessories here. So first, you know, Apple and er iPods and those headphones are super expensive. They’re really good, but they’re very expensive. And if you’re looking for a pair of affordable earbuds, you need to look at Beats Flex. So they have the same innards as air pods do the same chip that powers them. So they do all kinds of fun tricks, but they’re forty nine. Ninety five,

Amy:
Knomo.

Andrea:
Which is amazing. They’re not true wireless buds, but they are wireless in the sense that they have a band that connects them like for working out, you know, you wear them in the band goes behind your head. So one of the things that I really like about them is that they have a magnet in the back of the earbuds. So when you when they’re not in your ears, you can wear hanging around your neck and the magnets go together so that you’re not like, you know, how sometimes one side kind of gravity pulls one side more than the other and they fall off of your neck. And Amy, I know you have ones that you used to wear around your neck that were much heavier, that just stayed in place.

Amy:
Well, that yeah, oh, yeah, that was a really old old SAT where, like it was kind of like a band that went around your neck and

Andrea:
Yeah,

Amy:
Then the

Andrea:
Like

Amy:
Buds

Andrea:
A neck

Amy:
Came

Andrea:
Band

Amy:
Out

Andrea:
And

Amy:
Of that.

Andrea:
Exactly.

Amy:
Now I have some from Amazon that, like it’s kind of like it has it has magnets in the earbuds themselves. So when you don’t have it on, you just you just put it around your neck like a necklace.

Andrea:
Right, that’s what this is it’s a it’s a much thinner band that that holds the earbuds and then same thing, you put it around your neck, you drop the earbuds, they click together and that’s it. But what’s cool about that is when they click together, it pauses the music or the audio or whatever you’re playing.

Amy:
Oh.

Andrea:
So the way the air pods, when you take them out of your ear, it stops this. When they click together, it stops the music, which I think is very cool, you know. So if you if you’re listening to music and you want to talk to someone, you just clicking together and you don’t have to fuddle and figure out how to turn them off. The other thing is 12 hours battery life and fast charging. So if you put them into a USB charger, they are USB C, which is cool, 10 minutes of charging gives you 90 minutes of playback time. So on those days when you know, well, we’re not really running to the gym, but you’re going to work out at home maybe

Amy:
No,

Andrea:
And.

Amy:
I was on I was on a four mile I was on a four mile thing the other day and my I didn’t check the headphones and they ran out like ten minutes

Andrea:
Oh,

Amy:
Into it. I it

Andrea:
God.

Amy:
Was I was stuck with my thoughts for like an hour. It

Andrea:
How

Amy:
Was terrible.

Andrea:
Horrible,

Amy:
Oh,

Andrea:
Horrible.

Amy:
It was awful.

Andrea:
Well, if you had way if you had these, you could wait 10 minutes, charge them up and you’d get 90 minutes. And then the other thing I really like about them, if you have an iPhone, is how unbelievably easy they are to pair. I mean, you literally just open them up. You hold them near your iPhone, you make sure it’s unlocked and and you’re done. They pair automatically. So

Rebecca:
Cool.

Andrea:
Very cool. All of the, you know, incredible innards of the air pods without the price, 50 bucks. So that’s one. And the other one is because some of my devices are you, SBC and a lot of gadgets are using you SBC now. But my phone in the car is lightning, obviously, and my car charger is just a regular USB charger. So I went in search of a USB C and a regular Uzbeki car charger and I found the Moshi Quick Duo Car Charger. This is like, you know, Amy, you guys are USGBC. But I forget if your husband is iPhone or Android

Amy:
He’s I think we’re

Andrea:
Yet,

Amy:
A mixed family, Jake

Andrea:
Right?

Amy:
And I are both Samsung and my husband and daughter are both Apple.

Andrea:
And that’s exactly the charger you need, this was made for you because you can charge both of them with one car charger

Amy:
Knomo.

Andrea:
And it’s fast charging, said the U.S. supports 18, wants a power which is super fast. And the other regular USB is PDA power delivery, which supports the faster charging times of the new iPhones. So I think a lot of people think that because their iPhone is as fast charge capable, that they’re just getting it. But you actually need a charger that supports fast charging.

Amy:
Right.

Andrea:
So this one supports fast charging, supports you, SBC, great for blended families and it’s thirty dollars. So and the other thing for you, Amy, is because it’s USGBC, you can actually charge your laptop.

Amy:
Nice.

Andrea:
So when you sit in your car for alternate side parking, you can charge your laptop in the car charger.

Amy:
I I’m not in there long enough to do that, I’m usually just on my phone, but when we take road trips, you know, my husband almost always drives and I’m almost always on my computer in the passenger seat. So that would be very

Andrea:
So

Amy:
Handy.

Andrea:
There you go, you

Rebecca:
No,

Andrea:
Know, because

Rebecca:
I like

Andrea:
I’m so

Rebecca:
That.

Andrea:
Used to when you when you charge your laptop, I’m just so used to like that brick, you know, that big heavy brick and the two

Rebecca:
Yeah.

Andrea:
Pieces of cord that you need to bring. This is just a simple USB Crosby’s cable and you can charge your laptop. So very cool. And then really quickly, just another small accessory for traveling like you’re doing if you’re setting up, say, at your mom’s or in a hotel room or even at your desk, if you’re relocating to the dining room table and you need lots of ports for everything you see is a company that makes cool accessories. They have a USB type C travel dock, really small, affordable. I think it’s like 50 bucks and it’s got two USB, three point one ports, regular ports. It’s got an SD card reader and it also has an HDMI 2.0 port. So that like maybe you could charge in your monitor. So you charge, you put your laptop into this hub and then you put everything else into the hub. And, you know, then if you want to take your laptop, you just unplug your laptop and go or move

Amy:
Hayse.

Andrea:
The whole thing. Yeah. So all really cool stuff that kind of puts everything together for this work at home or school at home environment offer relatively affordable prices, I think.

Rebecca:
Cool. All right, boy. It’s like everything at home is like very these

Andrea:
At

Rebecca:
Are very

Andrea:
Home,

Rebecca:
Different.

Andrea:
At home.

Rebecca:
These are different, very different gift ideas. OK, so my first bite this week is obviously the Radio City Rockettes Christmas spectacular is not happening this year. And it’s like a big tourist thing that I think everyone just has to go to once in their life. And there are people who go every year of their life.

Amy:
Can I tell you, I went once and like that I was that’s good, I’m done. I

Rebecca:
Exactly.

Amy:
Do have friends who, like, go with their entire families

Rebecca:
I

Amy:
Every

Rebecca:
Know

Amy:
Single

Rebecca:
I,

Andrea:
My

Amy:
Year.

Andrea:
Grandmother

Rebecca:
I get

Andrea:
Took

Rebecca:
It.

Andrea:
Us every year, she took us every year

Rebecca:
Oh,

Andrea:
To see

Rebecca:
My

Andrea:
The

Rebecca:
God.

Andrea:
Rockettes and we loved it, and then we went to Ashraf’s for

Rebecca:
Mm.

Andrea:
Ice cream sodas afterwards. It was

Rebecca:
I

Andrea:
A thing.

Rebecca:
Love that your grandmother took you because I remember the first year I went with my family and we did not know that it was like super religious Hands Full and we were all looking at each other like, what is going on? Like, it’s like Rockettes, Rockettes, New York Rockettes. And then all of a sudden it’s like the wise men and Jesus and camels. And we were like, what is happening? But anyway,

Amy:
It is the Christmas spectacular,

Rebecca:
I

Amy:
Not the

Rebecca:
Knew

Amy:
Holiday

Rebecca:
But that

Amy:
Spectacular.

Rebecca:
Did you know, it just really was not expected. So once was enough for my family as well. Although I really love I actually love all that, like that’s like a whole other story. But anyway, I used to love watching the animals get unloaded in in October into the into Radio City. It was always so cool. So because it’s not happening this year, you can actually buy tickets now for next year, which are cancelable and they’re guaranteeing them. And if you’re craving that Rockettes experience, the Rockettes are giving free virtual dance classes

Amy:
Huh?

Rebecca:
Every Thursday at noon on their Instagram page. And you can learn the choreography to the Christmas spectacular.

Andrea:
That

Amy:
That’s

Andrea:
Is so

Amy:
Great.

Andrea:
Funny, that

Rebecca:
It’s

Andrea:
Is so

Rebecca:
Not

Andrea:
Cool.

Rebecca:
Fun. So if your kids, you know, it’s also just a fun thing to do, period. Like even if you’ve never spent the Christmas spectacular or maybe your kids always wanted to, you don’t have to buy a ticket for next year to do it. This is totally free. Follow them on their Instagram page. And it’s taught by a rocket every week, a different rocket. And they come out and they teach choreography. And it’s just super fun. And especially if your kids are needing something new to do.

Amy:
Something physical.

Rebecca:
Yeah, who doesn’t want to be a Rockette? So that is

Amy:
Well,

Rebecca:
And

Amy:
I’m about

Rebecca:
Buy

Amy:
A foot

Rebecca:
A ticket

Amy:
Too

Rebecca:
For

Amy:
Short.

Rebecca:
Next year. Yeah. And I think the deals for next year’s Christmas spectacular are kind of amazing. So if that is something, you know, you want to do as a family, it’s not a bad time to get on that, actually.

Amy:
Yeah, give them the money now, because they really,

Rebecca:
Yeah,

Amy:
Really need it.

Rebecca:
Exactly, let’s keep keep the Rockettes, you know, in their little teeny, tiny New York apartments. So the other bite I have is actually an entire article in New York magazine, which is the best gifts for teenage girls, according to teenaged girls.

Amy:
Oh,

Rebecca:
So,

Amy:
I’m going to check this out with my daughter. See how how spot

Rebecca:
Yes.

Amy:
On they are.

Rebecca:
So it’s it’s full of, like, really fun decorating thing, like Bluetooth smart bulbs that change colors. And again, kind of very home themed because we know our kids are home led photo clip string lights. I think, like, if you can give your kids a little opportunity to up their decor at this point in their room or change it up a little, they’re probably sick of staring at the same stuff. And these things are really inexpensive. Like you can get Bluetooth color changing light bulbs for ten bucks. You can get know these LED photo clip string lights are, I think, fourteen dollars. You know, there’s the diffuser, which is always a big hit for I don’t know why teen girls love diffusers, but they say it’s

Amy:
Oh,

Rebecca:
A good thing.

Amy:
My God, mine, too.

Rebecca:
It’s so weird. And then suddenly one of the things they have in here that I love and I was talking to a mom about because her daughter’s gotten super into it and all of her friends and maybe this is just because they’ve been cooped up at home, is tarot cards. So

Amy:
Mine,

Rebecca:
I think

Amy:
Too,

Rebecca:
It’s.

Amy:
It’s like they’re all on the same track.

Rebecca:
But they are all watching, they’re probably all just following the same TikTok as this, but I think it’s something fun you can do over Zoom and face time with friends like you could read each other’s tarot cards. And maybe also at this time where kids feel like they have no control over anything, it gives you this, you know, not true, but sort of sense of control, like you can read your future. So and again, tarot cards like eight dollars, you know, why is something so cheap and also gives them something to learn. And there’s all different kinds of tarot cards and different art and different, you know, all sorts of fun stuff. And then this list has like really cute jewelry from all like the cute Instagram jewelry places, which as a parent, you have no idea about, you know, fuzzy slippers because your kids never leaving the house, you know, hoodies. And then, of course, it is like, you know, cool masks because who doesn’t need a cool mask? But it’s a great list. It covers everything from, you know, artsy craftsy kind of stuff, which is like tie dye and things like that to like sneakers, hoodies, jeans, décor. I love this list. It’s in a really affordable like I think the most expensive thing on this list is an a real camera, or as my friend’s daughter said the other day, a reusable camera. She said to her mom, my friend’s dad has this camera and you you don’t throw it away when you’re done. It’s not like a disposable one. It’s reusable. And

Amy:
Oh,

Rebecca:
She said,

Amy:
My God.

Rebecca:
So a camera that’s got a camera like, you know, weird. But she thought it was so cool that it could be used over it, over

Amy:
Oh, my God.

Rebecca:
It. So that’s

Amy:
Sure,

Rebecca:
The most expensive

Amy:
A

Rebecca:
Thing

Amy:
Rotary

Rebecca:
On this list,

Amy:
Phone with a curly cord, you’ll blow her mind.

Rebecca:
Right? It’s this thing that you, like, pick up and push buttons.

Amy:
But you can’t take it with you like it’s always attached to the wall.

Rebecca:
Yeah. How weird. Well, you could walk how long your phone cord used to be

Amy:
Yeah,

Rebecca:
Used

Amy:
But

Rebecca:
That

Amy:
Then

Rebecca:
You could,

Amy:
Your mom

Rebecca:
Like, move

Amy:
Yells

Rebecca:
From

Amy:
At you

Rebecca:
Left

Amy:
For stretching

Rebecca:
To right

Amy:
It out.

Rebecca:
And it tangles up. Remember untangling

Andrea:
And

Rebecca:
The phone

Andrea:
You

Rebecca:
Cord.

Andrea:
Just keep

Rebecca:
Chordata.

Andrea:
Wrapping it and wrapping

Rebecca:
Yes.

Andrea:
It around

Amy:
Yeah,

Andrea:
Your hand.

Rebecca:
While you’re talking. Stretches all the way to the bathroom.

Amy:
Um.

Rebecca:
Oh my God. So anyway, those are my bytes. You can check out everything we talked about on the show today at our show page at Parenting Bytes dot com and of course, at Facebook dot com slash Parenting Bytes where you can leave us suggestions or comments or anything you want. We’d love to hear from you guys. Let us know how you are celebrating the holidays during covid. As always, wherever you’re listening to us now, please rate, review, share. We’d love to hear from our listeners and we’d love to hear from our new listeners. So keep sharing and until next time, happy parenting.

Andrea:
By.

Rebecca:
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